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Obama is negotiating surrender in Afghanistan

COINCIDENTS OF REPORTS ARGUE THAT THIS IS FACT, NOT FICTION
by John Charlton

(Nov. 23, 2009) — Obama is about to sell out for political expediency the brave troops of the American and Nato forces which have been fighting a bitter war in the mountains of Afghanistan for nearly 8 years.

The report comes from an Arabic News Agency, Al-Watan, in Saudia Arabia. Chaptomatic’s translation of the report reads as follows:

Kabul, Islamabad: (agency name)

A well-informed Afghani source confirmed details of secret discussions happening between (name?) of the Taliban movement, among them the designated minister of war, and the American ambassador to Afghanistan Karl Eikenberry. (and there was agreement). The same source [said there was] complete agreement before the American ambassador party request and it resulted in US conditions for proceeding.

Ambassador Eikenberry proposed that the movement be granted sovereign power / authority in Kandahar state and Helmand and Orzkan and Kanr and Nuristan, in exchange for the ending of attacks on American bases in Afghanistan.

The Islamic Media blog, Membri Blog identifies the minister of war as Ahmad Mutawakil, the Taliban foreign minister — evidently they are the same position.

This report is unconfirmed by direct sources, but a report by the Christian Science Monitor yesterday indicates that the Pakistani government was asked by the Obama regime to sound out in support of Obama’s planned betrayal of the American and Afghan people.

Najmuddin Shaikh, formerly the top bureaucrat in the Pakistani Foreign Ministry, said the Taliban could be brought to the negotiating table if they saw a greater American military commitment and more investments in the Afghan countryside.

“It’s a little premature for talks [with the Taliban],” Shaikh said. “There has to be a change in the ground situation, things happening in the next six to eight months that shows the ‘ink spots’ strategy – [McChrystal’s idea of protecting Afghan population centers] – is taking hold, that some foot soldiers are being weaned away, then talks become possible.”

Nevertheless, behind the scenes talks with mid-level Taliban officials already have begun, and Pakistani officials think they could rapidly accelerate now that Karzai has begun his second term.

“We’ve already been talking to them [the Taliban],” said a senior Pakistani official in Islamabad, who couldn’t be named because of the sensitivity of the issue. “If the US helps the process, some arrangements can be worked out for political reconciliation. I’m not for a moment suggesting that it’s an easy task, but otherwise you will be fighting these people for the next hundred years.”

ThreatsWatch.org has issued its own enlightening commentary with many informative links on this possibility that Obama is negotiating surrender:

It would also fit in consistently with Ambassador Eikenberry’s leaked cables recently railing against a ’surge’ in forces in Afghanistan. He wouldn’t voice such without thinking he has his hands on something else. Could this be it? The surrender of 25% of Afghan territory in exchange for some form of ceasefire?

One would hope not. But if so, this demonstrated type of ‘effort’ in Afghanistan would prove to be the strongest indication that it may be time to advocate the full pullout of American forces from Afghanistan.

If this is true, then not one more drop of American blood for a path that resembles Pakistan’s path. You recall Pakistan’s series of surrenders touted as agreements, right?

Commentators on the net are indicating that if this news of negotiations between Eikenberry and Mutawakil is true, there will be immediate demands from the opposition parties in the United Kingdom, Canada and other Nato Allies for withdrawal, on the grounds that such a course of action is a slap in the face to America’s allied who have spent the blood of their own nationals for years, supporting American action in Afghanistan. The doubt alone, that this is true, will greatly weaking the alliance.

MORE TROOPS FORTHCOMING IN OBAMA’S BID TO BECOME DICTATOR

President Barack Obama has signed an executive order presidential determination allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to settle in the United States at American taxpayers’ expense. Sure, what can go wrong when we allow hundreds of thousands of people who have been, as Mark Steyn memorably described, “marinated” in a “sick death cult,” who voted for Hamas, and 55% of whom support suicide bombing/murders in the United States. By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinians. Egypt won’t take them. Jordan won’t take them. Syria won’t take them. Saudi Arabia won’t take them. All of the Arab countries - every one of them - has allowed the Palestinians to fester for over 60 years. Meanwhile, generation after generation have become more and more radicalized. Their lives are unproductive - they “live” to die as martyrs - yearning for the rewards of the world beyond. The “presidential determination” will allow hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States. The determination was signed on January 27 and appeared in the Federal Register on February 4. President Obama’s decision, according to the Register, was necessitated by “the urgent refugee and migration needs” of the “victims.” Few on Capitol Hill took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006. Wonder how long it’ll be before the U.S. is labeled a rouge country that supports terrorism

I pulled this headline from Huffington online today…. sounds a bit like what those American chaps did across the pond to handle their nasty Native Indian problem in America. Only problame-o, Hamas will not be bought off with a few glass trinkets and a promise of a piece of land that resembles that of a American Indian reservation.

One of the keener things here is… that no one had ~in your chaps terms~ the backs of the Native Indians. I bet if it were to happen today, you bleeding heart Americans would see their side of things ~Native Americans~ and would be fighting for their right to be a sovereign nation.

Funny how one mans terrorism is another mans fight for what is rightfully theirs… or an act of brutally stealing what you believe to be God given. You folks called Indians savages, for the way they lived and fought. Actually, they were freedom fighters like your Reagan’s, Iran-Contra mess.

Curious how one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter… guess I suppose which side your for, doesn’t it.

Israels terroristic genocide is held by too many as a war for security… security.

Mark my words… this situation will be, what it will be, until either one is gone from that region of the world, or… reservationed into a near extinction by the World community.

Curious how things never change…

I know how you Americans enjoy your pic’s… Take a look at these.

Cheerio!